Episode 25 - The Corporate Yogi

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0:00:00 - (Nicole): This episode of bring your kid to work is brought to you by Lioness Media.

0:00:04 - (Nicole): It's time to bring your kid to work.

0:00:07 - (Nicole): Hey everyone. It's time to bring your kid to work. It's the family podcast that explores the world of work through the eyes of parents and their kids. Each week we interview one parent and their child to chat about what they do for work, what they like, what they don't like, and how they got there in the first place. Let's find out who we're talking to today.

Our two guests today are Debby and her daughter Rosie.

0:00:31 - (Nicole): Debby Lewis is the founder and owner.

0:00:33 - (Nicole): Of Corporate Yoga Australia, a company that.

0:00:36 - (Nicole): Takes yoga, meditation and mindfulness to the office. Debby began practicing yoga and meditation when.

0:00:42 - (Nicole): She was very young.

0:00:44 - (Nicole): It helped her stay mentally and physically connected during her years working in the corporate world. And while corporate yoga Australia has just turned ten years old, the idea of corporate yoga was born in 2001 when Debby was working a high pressure corporate role in Sydney, putting in long hours and sitting at a desk for extended periods. She had a yoga practice during this time and started bringing simple stretches, meditation, breath work and chair yoga to her colleagues.

0:01:10 - (Nicole): That was the start of everything.

0:01:13 - (Nicole): And now Debby teaches many styles of yoga, from beginners to experienced. Her classes focus on breath and clear alignment to provide yoga tailored to each individual student. While she started Cya herself, she now has a whole team made up of professional, passionate and experienced teachers and practitioners who deliver the highest quality wellness sessions in the office. Amazing.

0:01:36 - (Nicole): Debby brings with her her daughter Rosie.

0:01:39 - (Nicole): Rosie isn't keen to follow in her mum's yoga poses. She's interested in forging her own path. So let's get on with the show.

0:01:48 - (Nicole): So welcome, both of you, to bring your kid to work. I'm really excited to welcome two special guests and I have Rosie and Debby here today. And I'll start with you. Rosie, introduce yourself.

0:01:59 - (Rosie): Hi, I'm Rosie, I'm 13 years old and I'm currently in year eight.

0:02:02 - (Nicole): Year eight, excellent. And who did you bring with you today?

0:02:06 - (Rosie): And my mom.

0:02:06 - (Nicole): Debby. Yeah. Excellent. Hi, Debby.

0:02:09 - (Debby): Hello. How are you?

0:02:10 - (Nicole): I'm well. We're calling this episode the corporate yogi and that's because you have a business of your own called corporate yoga.

0:02:17 - (Debby): I do corporate yoga Australia, the full name. So, yes, and we've just celebrated ten years, which is great.

0:02:24 - (Nicole): Oh, that's exciting. Congratulations.

0:02:26 - (Debby): Thank you very much.

0:02:27 - (Nicole): Corporate yoga Australia. Rosie, what does mum do all day long?

0:02:32 - (Rosie): I'm honestly not really sure. I always see her writing down lesson plans and writing up things and my dad, he's always hard at work doing something, and then, yeah, I'm not really sure. She writes a lot of stuff down.

0:02:47 - (Nicole): Excellent. I would think that yoga involved doing yoga, but is there lots of writing things down, Debby?

0:02:53 - (Debby): Well, there's a lot of doing yoga, but Rosie doesn't tend to come to the yoga classes with me, although saying that when she was younger, I used to teach a lot of younger kids yoga and she used to come along and would sometimes help me run the classes. And as she got a bit older, got really good at it. And I used to run some silent, disco style yoga sessions as well. And she was brilliant at that because she does a lot of acting. It actually came in really well. So one day she took over.

0:03:18 - (Debby): I'm like, wow, can you teach me how you did that? She was excellent at it, but other than that, she sees me always running off to studios, and then when I'm at home, there's all the back end stuff. So because it's teaching yoga, but running a business, I have to be contacting clients and doing all of the marketing and the social media and everything. Really?

0:03:40 - (Nicole): All the things that come with being a small business? Yes, exactly.

0:03:44 - (Debby): Yeah.

0:03:45 - (Nicole): Your days are predominantly out teaching yoga at different locations?

0:03:50 - (Debby): Yes and no. I have other teachers teaching for corporate yoga, Australia as well. So I've got teachers in every state.

0:03:56 - (Nicole): Wow.

0:03:57 - (Debby): And then have a few teachers in Brisbane. And I manage a wellbeing space in Brisbane City as well, where we have yoga and Pilates. And I'll often organize things like body combat and sound baths and different things as well. And then I teach in quite a few studios around Brisbane. But then I also go out to organizations and teach a lot of just trying to get people who wouldn't ever go to a yoga studio to do yoga.

0:04:23 - (Nicole): So I always think, how would I.

0:04:24 - (Debby): Get my dad or a bloke who. And not always blokes. There's women I know who just would never do yoga. I'm like, how can I make it relatable to them? So I'm always looking at, okay, let's look at how we can do a simple breathing practice and look at different techniques that you can just integrate into your day. So there's a lot of meditation and workplace wellness sessions and different things as well. So I'm always trying to be really creative with, okay, who can I partner with and create something that's going to be new and fresh and vibrant? Like, this morning I was down the Gold coast running a conference on the beach. I was running a yoga session first thing this morning, which was really lovely.

0:05:01 - (Nicole): Sounds awful.

0:05:04 - (Debby): So it's very varied. I have a very varied, lovely life and I feel very grateful for having doing something I love. Although Rose is always, especially when she was younger, she'd be like, mum, when are you going to get a proper job? You might not think that now.

0:05:19 - (Nicole): Do you think mum's job is a proper job now, Rosie?

0:05:22 - (Rosie): Yeah, I always have.

0:05:25 - (Nicole): That is quite a busy life. And it sounds like you travel around a lot as well. Is that something that you think you're interested in doing, Rosie, when you get big? Mum said you were obviously good when you were younger at yoga, but, no.

0:05:38 - (Rosie): I don't really know how to do any of that. I'm not interested in that whatsoever. But, yeah, I'm not really sure I'm really into acting. I've just been accepted into Queensland theatre, like, that whole program, so that's really exciting. And then I've done a bunch of shows and, yeah, I'm still going with it. So I don't think yoga is really my path, but definitely acting.

0:06:04 - (Nicole): That sounds incredible. Queensland theatre's programs are amazing and highly competitive. Well done. What kind of acting are you thinking of in your future? Are you thinking stage staying with that?

0:06:17 - (Rosie): I'm not really sure. I don't really think stage acting, because while stage acting is good, I feel like there are more things I could do with actually doing stuff on screen and things like that. And I feel like on stage, I've done it for so long and it's good, but I want to know film?

0:06:37 - (Nicole): Yeah, of course. You want to try all the things. That makes a lot of sense. Having a yoga studio and a yoga business, you have to be up front in front of classes. So I'm assuming that Rosie kind of felt a little bit of that show personship, maybe watching know, I think actually.

0:06:54 - (Debby): When she was little, I always used to think she's got to love acting because her dad loved acting as well. He was a movie and it was a big part of his growing up. And then when I was at school, I did drama a level and I went on and did drama as one of my university modules and I was in quite a lot of plays and I loved it. And so I was like, Rose is going to love it. And I remember when she was old enough, we enrolled her into drama and, yeah, she loved it. There's actually a picture of her in her very first show, looking so proud at the front, totally basking in the limelight and really enjoyed it. And ever since then has just know played some really good parts as well. She just played Winnie the Pooh and Winnie the Pooh a little while ago and then doing a little bit more dramatic stuff with Queensland Theatre as well. It digs a little bit deeper, doesn't it? Yeah.

0:07:42 - (Nicole): And is that something you're wanting to pursue through university, Rose, or are you going to just go straight into trying to get work?

0:07:49 - (Rosie): No, I'm not really sure because I want to go to Quackie Queensland Academy, acting creative. Yeah. And I really want to go there, so I'm going to try to go there in the near future. But, yeah, definitely studying some form of acting. That'll be great.

0:08:07 - (Nicole): Yeah, I think they start in year. Did they start in year ten? Yeah. So you've got another year to do and then go for it. Is that something that you did when you were younger, Debby? Did you do lots of workshops when you were at school of different things? How did you get into yoga?

0:08:23 - (Debby): My mum was actually a yoga teacher, or she was training to be. She was actually a school teacher and then she trained to do yoga. And I used to go to a lot of yoga with her and I always used to go, one day, I want to be a yoga teacher. And then I went to some teachers, all of whom were just incredible. So I practiced yoga since I was a kid, but always went, I'm not good enough, I don't know enough knowledge.

0:08:46 - (Debby): And it was actually when Rosie was born that kind of gave me the opportunity to go, let's do my yoga teacher training and see what happens here. And it continued to grow from there. But it was interesting. When I was at university, I started working in a call center as everyone at uni used to work in this call center in Bristol in England, and they asked if I'd do some recruitment there for the call center.

0:09:07 - (Debby): So when I turned up backpacking in Australia, everywhere I went to was like, will you come and be a recruiter for us? And I'm like, no, I don't want.

0:09:14 - (Nicole): To do, I just want to work.

0:09:15 - (Debby): In a bar and just have fun. And anyway, in the end I went, okay, I'll do that. And that's how I got sponsored and ended up staying in Australia. And it's really interesting when you look back and see how your paths kind of woven together that actually back in 2001 when I was working in this very corporate job in Sydney, I was going in and teaching people simple breathing practices and stretches because I was doing yoga all the time and we were really stressed out. And I'm like, okay, here's some.

0:09:41 - (Debby): If I could just bring corporate yoga. But at that stage, nobody was open to it. Wasn't even an option. So I studied massage, because we used to have the ten minute angels would come in and massage us, and I thought maybe I could do that, but actually realized I prefer receiving massages than actually giving them. And then it's just kind of integrated. It's always been in my mind that I'll do that. And then, yeah, it was really the birth of Rosie that gave me the freedom to not return back to work.

0:10:11 - (Nicole): And start exploring that, which I did. Absolutely incredible. And often, I think, those inflection points in your life where you have a brand new human, you go, well, what am I actually here for? You really start to think about what you want to do with your life. That's amazing.

0:10:28 - (Debby): It really is. So, yeah, so it led me down a really great path, and, yeah, started teaching yoga, and then ten years to the day, almost, that the company's been open. I say to the day it's February 2014, that it actually officially opened. But I'd been doing things with ex clients and people that I used to work with from back then.

0:10:49 - (Nicole): Wow. There you go. Yeah. Rosie, was that mum's first job, the call center, or do you know whether mum had any jobs when she was in high school?

0:10:57 - (Rosie): No, I'm not really sure about know. I kind of just kept to myself and I didn't really know what she did.

0:11:04 - (Nicole): Was the call center the first thing, Debby?

0:11:06 - (Debby): No. Oh, my God. I've had so many jobs, and actually, when we go back to where I'm from, Stratford, Avon in England, as we're driving around, I'm always pointing out to Rosie, like, I used to work there and I worked there and I worked there, so I used to clean barges and I used to make beds. My first job was making beds in this hotel, and I've stacked shelves in shops, and I was just always working and just making money and saving money to go away, traveling, I'd make money, then I'd squander my money on travels, and then I'd come back and make money again and. Yeah. So that was always a real thing for.

0:11:39 - (Nicole): Yeah, yeah, I think that's a great way to spend money. That's not squandering, that's investing. It's investing. Yeah, I like to think that's right. So, Rosie, is that going to be your first job making beds in a hotel?

0:11:51 - (Rosie): I don't think so. I'm not really sure yet.

0:11:54 - (Nicole): Have you thought about. I'm going to go and get a job. Is that something you're interested in doing, getting a part time job while you're at high school?

0:12:00 - (Rosie): I'm not really sure. I'll just see what opportunities there are.

0:12:04 - (Nicole): Yeah. And how much money you need for the things that you want to do. Yeah. It's always a motivating factor.

0:12:11 - (Debby): We were talking a little while ago about babysitting, so we've got somebody moving into the street who's like, oh, your daughter's like, babysitting age, so that might be the first job, maybe.

0:12:21 - (Nicole): Yes.

0:12:21 - (Debby): I used to do a lot of babysitting.

0:12:23 - (Nicole): There's a lot of people who do that as a first job. It's nice to have your own money to spend. I like that.

0:12:28 - (Debby): Yeah, I think so.

0:12:30 - (Nicole): Do you know, Rosie, why mum came to Australia? Do you have any idea?

0:12:35 - (Rosie): No, I'm not sure, actually.

0:12:37 - (Nicole): Debby, what was the impetus for going from Shakespeare's home to coming to Australia?

0:12:46 - (Debby): My sister actually moved out when I was at university in Bristol. My sister moved out and traveled for ages, and almost as soon as she got back, I came out here. But it just always been on my radar to come to Australia, so on the working holiday visa, and it's such a great thing to have the working holiday visa and that opportunity. And it was actually in 2000 that I first came out, and it was just as the Olympic Games were happening and I moved to Bondi, and it was a really exciting time. So I was living.

0:13:14 - (Debby): Lots of my friends came over from Bristol and we ended up living in this amazing shared house opposite the beach in Bondi. And it was just such a fun time. And then I was working in the city for a while as well. And then I actually moved back to Bristol for four years, which is when I got together with Rose's dad. But I said to him, look, just so you know, I've got residency, I'm going back to Australia. You've got to be happy with that long term. And so then we both ended up coming back out after lots of travels.

0:13:45 - (Nicole): Wow. I think travel is so much fun and you get to learn lots of different cultures and different ways people do things, and it just broadens all of your perspective. Rosie, when you leave school, do you think travel is on your agenda? Have you done a bit of it?

0:14:01 - (Rosie): I've definitely. I've been to England a lot, and then we just recently went to Paris, which is really great. Yeah, I'm not really sure. I'd love to actually go to the Bristol old Vic, where my dad used to work. Is that right? Yeah, he used to work there. And they've got a university program there that I'd love to look. Yeah, I think that would be really cool.

0:14:23 - (Nicole): Yeah, that sounds incredible. It's an incredible place to be, especially if you want to be an actor. But obviously there, it's very much stage acting, Broadway, but go for it, all of the things. Acting is obviously a big passion of yours, Rosie. But what else do you love? What do you love at school? What do you love in life that's other than acting?

0:14:47 - (Rosie): I'm not really sure. I mean, I like, I'm not really sure. I don't really have, like, a plan B. Oh, no, I'm not saying plan.

0:14:53 - (Nicole): B. I'm just saying in your life now. Yeah, because plan B is for when you're like 35, 40, don't even worry about plan B. But now, what do you love at school? What do you love to do that's not acting outside of school with friends, that kind of stuff?

0:15:06 - (Rosie): I guess me and my friends, we like to just hang out and just.

0:15:10 - (Nicole): I don't know, hang out and chat. Yeah.

0:15:14 - (Nicole): And what about favorite subjects of school?

0:15:15 - (Nicole): I'm assuming drama is one of them.

0:15:17 - (Rosie): Yeah, drama is really good. I just had a drama presentation the other day and that went really well, so that's good. But I think my favorite subject, like, academically, is probably English.

0:15:27 - (Nicole): I don't know.

0:15:28 - (Rosie): I think it's, like a really easy subject and I'm good at it.

0:15:31 - (Nicole): Yeah, well, things are easy when you often. They're easy when you're good at.

0:15:35 - (Rosie): Yeah.

0:15:36 - (Nicole): Someone else would be going, oh, English, that's the worst. What about university for your mum? Your mum's saying she went to Bristol University. I don't know what she did. Do you know what she studied?

0:15:46 - (Rosie): I think, like, English literature or something.

0:15:49 - (Nicole): Was that it, Debby?

0:15:50 - (Debby): That was it. It was a modular degree with English literature and philosophy and some drama.

0:15:54 - (Nicole): Did you like university?

0:15:56 - (Debby): I loved it. I chose based on the city that I really liked, my mum. I took a couple of years off and travelled and it was mum really putting pressure on me to go, look, can you just go to university, please go. So I looked at either italian in Brighton, English in Bristol, something in Edinburgh, and I'm all about which city do I want? And I got in for English. So Bristol's an amazing city, and it was in the 90s when massive attack were huge and it was such a buzzing, vibrant place to be that I was just loving exploring and having that adventurous meeting people and everyone was blown away that I did really well at university up. And they're like, how did you get such a good grade? So clearly we're both kind of good at English without having to put that much effort in defending myself. I did have a lot of late nights. I remember staying up all night writing essays and I didn't completely coast. There was a lot of work that went into it.

0:16:54 - (Nicole): I don't think you pass a university degree without doing a significant amount of work. It's quite a lot to do. But if you're enjoying it, makes it easier.

0:17:02 - (Debby): Yes, it does. And there was a lot of. Right, you've got to read middle March by Thursday. And if you've seen the size of middle march and all these other books, I just have piling up going, oh, my God, I've got to start speed reading and get through them.

0:17:14 - (Nicole): Sounds like bliss.

0:17:15 - (Debby): It was really lovely, actually.

0:17:17 - (Nicole): It was great just having to read all day. All right, then I'll do that.

0:17:20 - (Debby): I know.

0:17:22 - (Nicole): Plus, England has the weather for reading. All know. Nice book. Cup of tea under the covers. Does it? Does. What is the best thing about your job, Debby? What do you love about what you do?

0:17:35 - (Debby): Do you know? I love everything. I feel so very, very grateful to be doing something I just love so much. So, I love all my amazing students have so know I'm the one who goes in and people might be having a bad day at work and it's like, hey, it's Debby, always. Everyone's so pleased to see me, which is wonderful. So I guess that just feels good. But it's also something I love so much. It's so varied.

0:17:59 - (Debby): Maybe it could be a bit crazy for people, the variety. It suits me, but I'm kind of having to jump from, I'll do a class in the morning and then I'll do a class somewhere else, and then I'll have to get back and make ten calls and send emails out and I might be working until really late and get up at 05:00 a.m. The next day. And there's a lot happening, there's a lot of moving parts.

0:18:22 - (Nicole): Keep busy, by the sounds of things. Yeah.

0:18:25 - (Debby): I actually didn't realize quite how much I did. And then people will be like, God, do you ever stop? You're the busiest person I know. And I'm like, no, I was chilling out for a while. I was just sitting and watching a movie with Rosie last night.

0:18:35 - (Nicole): And they're like, but that's once.

0:18:39 - (Debby): Yeah, but Rosie probably doesn't think I'm that busy because when she sees me, I'm probably more chilled out around the house. Like, I try to spend quality time with her and go, let's go shopping in the city and go and head to Mecca or something, or just walk in and do some nice things together. So I think it's lovely that it's given me the freedom to be able to do school pickups and I've always been able to be there for Rosie and organise my life around, being able to be present as a mum.

0:19:09 - (Nicole): Yeah. Which is a huge bonus. It sounds very much like mum loves her job. Rosie, is that true? Does mum love her job?

0:19:17 - (Rosie): Yeah, she really likes it.

0:19:20 - (Nicole): Do you get to do yoga as well or have you let that all go now?

0:19:23 - (Rosie): No, I don't do yoga at all. No, it's not my thing. But, yeah, she really likes it and, I mean, I'm happy for her, but I just don't like yoga.

0:19:33 - (Nicole): It's not for you. That's okay.

0:19:35 - (Debby): It's interesting, isn't it? I remember when she was a baby, taking her to a yoga class and she just didn't get into it even then. And it's just been, you choose your own course and yoga is definitely not her course.

0:19:46 - (Nicole): You came out of the box and it wasn't what you were interested in. That's fair enough. Your parents, you said your mum was a schoolteacher. What did your dad do, Debby?

0:19:54 - (Debby): He's quite an entrepreneur. So he had a job he hated, but he retired very early, so I remember he was 50 and he came back going, that's it, I'm never going back. And he became, like a professional gambler. And he was very good at it. He was very wise, very disciplined, very disciplined and used to do really well. He always wanted to open a bed and breakfast, a guest house, and he was always busy, so he passed away a couple of years ago, but he was always up a ladder, doing people's windows, mowing people's lawns, just whistling and just busy. He always had his shorts on and always, like, organizing. He never sat down.

0:20:36 - (Debby): So for him, Mum always used to say, God, he was so well suited to being self employed because he had so much energy and drive and that.

0:20:45 - (Nicole): Seems to have rubbed off.

0:20:47 - (Debby): I'd say that's definitely a trait I've probably inherited. Yeah, for sure.

0:20:52 - (Nicole): And when you have a rough day at work, a bad day at work. What makes it a bad day? What is a bad day for you in the world of corporate yoga? Australia?

0:21:02 - (Debby): Look, it's probably just when I've got a lot happening, and it's trying to keep my head above water. So just suddenly that I'm, oh, my God, I've got 30 people I need to get back to, and I've got a lesson that I've got to teach tomorrow, and have I got this class, or maybe I'm doing a live stream and the technology has gone wrong. That's my biggest bug ever. It drives me crazy that I will go, yeah, I'll have 60 people waiting for me, and I can't get it to connect what's happening.

0:21:32 - (Debby): And that's my biggest thing, technology.

0:21:35 - (Nicole): Yeah. But I imagine that the yoga practice and the learning that you've done as a yogi helps you in those moments, because it's all about managing your stress and anxiety and worries in those moments.

0:21:51 - (Debby): It definitely helps a lot. It doesn't necessarily get me online any quicker, but it does give me calm in the whole tower of it. I'm like, look, what will be, will be.

0:22:02 - (Nicole): I'm very. This is the way.

0:22:04 - (Debby): I'll just go with the easy flow, and if it's not happening, it's not meant to, and it will work out in time. Just keep breathing, stay calm, and that helps, definitely. And then also, the company is growing a lot at the moment, so it's looking at trying to put new systems in place, and so that's kind of technology isn't my thing. And so trying to get my head around all these new CRMs and different ways of operating has been a constant challenge for me.

0:22:34 - (Nicole): Yeah, well, I did like the way that you made sure that Rosie sorted out your Apple Watch before we started technology challenges for Gen X's. Like us, it happens. We're not as native to it as you guys are, so you have to be patient with us.

0:22:49 - (Debby): I have actually suggested Rosie could take on my social media management of TikTok.

0:22:54 - (Rosie): It's not happening.

0:22:56 - (Debby): I don't know how TikTok works.

0:22:59 - (Nicole): Are you a TikTok Lurker or are you TikTok? You produce your own content.

0:23:03 - (Rosie): No, I don't really do anything. I'm usually just like, whenever my friends make a video or something, I'm always just in the comments, like, oh, my.

0:23:10 - (Nicole): Gosh, looks so good.

0:23:12 - (Rosie): I don't really do anything else with liking comments and stuff.

0:23:16 - (Nicole): So it's not. Social media management is not in your future either.

0:23:20 - (Rosie): No.

0:23:21 - (Nicole): What are you looking forward to the most when you go out into adult life, Rosie?

0:23:26 - (Rosie): I'm not really sure. Probably just, like, getting my own house. The word of just living by myself just sounds like, really nice. And I feel like just having my own house to just decorate myself and look after. I'm very excited for that. And I'm excited to make my own decisions and do stuff for myself without having someone chase me up on it when I know I have to get it done. I'm so excited about that.

0:23:52 - (Rosie): Excited to just do whatever I want to do.

0:23:55 - (Nicole): Yeah. And part of that is obviously the responsibility that comes with that as well. So you're good with the washing and the cooking and the shopping for the groceries and all that?

0:24:06 - (Rosie): I could definitely do it. I could definitely do it if it was, like my house, but if it's anybody else trying to get me to do their dishes, I'm not going to do know.

0:24:15 - (Nicole): Yeah. Working in a restaurant as your first job also not going to be a thing.

0:24:19 - (Rosie): Yeah.

0:24:20 - (Nicole): What about work and choosing a career? Do you think kids who are listening need to know about Debby?

0:24:27 - (Debby): Look, I really believe that there's so much pressure that you just need to follow what feels right. To know that really is just follow the course that you're guided towards. Work out what your purpose is by working out what lights your fire. And I feel like there's so many opportunities for us now. We've got social media at our fingertips to be able to create amazing content. There's so many entrepreneurs. It's so easy to start your own business.

0:24:59 - (Debby): With Rosie, of course, she'll be an amazing a list actor, but there's also opportunities to create drama workshops and do a whole load of online drama teaching.

0:25:11 - (Nicole): No, I don't think so.

0:25:12 - (Rosie): I could not teach somebody. It would annoy me too much. No, because if I have to be teaching a class of little kids or something, they would just could not. I just would not be able to handle it without screaming at some seven year olds about Stanislavsky.

0:25:27 - (Nicole): Yes.

0:25:28 - (Rosie): And I would get so annoyed they.

0:25:30 - (Nicole): Would be in there. I am a seven year old method acting, being seven, and you're like, no, this is not how we do this. I used to be a high school teacher and my eldest daughter is a primary school teacher and she likes the little ones. She's teaching grade one at west end, and that is like my worst nightmare. No, thank you. I can't deal with the little ones. I was quite happy with the grade. Well, at that time it was 8910 1112, but, yeah, I can understand.

0:25:57 - (Nicole): Kids are hard.

0:25:58 - (Rosie): Yeah. And honestly, I feel like if I was a teacher, I'd just let the kids do whatever they want.

0:26:04 - (Debby): Okay, maybe teaching is not your course.

0:26:07 - (Nicole): Sounds like perhaps that I'm just here.

0:26:09 - (Rosie): If something, like, goes sideways or anything, I can just step in and help. Like, if you want to learn how to do that thing, go ask somebody else.

0:26:16 - (Nicole): Classroom management and handling the kids is probably the biggest part of it. So if that's not what you're interested in, then definitely not your path. Rosie, I honestly don't know how school teachers do it.

0:26:26 - (Debby): I'm actually going in in a few weeks to teach a lot of mindfulness and yoga to a school for grade eight, nine and ten, which is a really valuable skill for them. But that does scare me a little. I've run a couple of retreats as well, a mother's daughter's retreat. So it'll bring mothers and daughters away and do different lovely weekends and had some very nice places I go to to run.

0:26:50 - (Nicole): You need to put me on the email list for that, please, Debby, because that sounds delightful. That sounds wonderful to connect with. Yeah. Because who gets that time? You're always busy running around and they're busy running around. That's the thing with teenagers, is you guys have a life and you want to do all your things and we're like, just come and hang out with us, please. I have loved having this chat with you guys. Thank you both so much. Is there anything about work or study or careers that I haven't asked you, that I should have asked? Do you think, Rose?

0:27:20 - (Rosie): I don't think so, no.

0:27:22 - (Nicole): Yeah. We just have to look out for you in your future. Acting. Yeah, we will make sure that we do that. You're not the first bring a kid to work guest who said that acting is their passion. So we've got a couple of people that we're keeping an eye on now, which is very exciting. Debby, was there anything that I missed?

0:27:37 - (Debby): No, I think you've been very thorough.

0:27:42 - (Nicole): Your mum's got a teacher, Jean. I get a gold.

0:27:47 - (Debby): You can have Shavasana now.

0:27:50 - (Nicole): It's been a delight talking to you both. Thank you both for coming to bring your kid to work. Thank you, Rosie.

0:27:55 - (Rosie): Thank you.

0:27:55 - (Nicole): Thank you, Demi.

0:27:56 - (Debby): Thank you, Nicole.

0:27:57 - (Nicole): And we'll talk to you guys next week. Thanks so much. That was fabulous. Thank you, guys. Great.

0:28:02 - (Rosie): Thank you so much.

0:28:04 - (Nicole): Thank you.

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